wiki:projects/internationalization/20111201_meeting

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This page will guide us through our transition to a bilingual organization.

First Meeting Agenda: December 2, 2011 @ 5pm Eastern / 4pm Central

(Meeting on Skype)

Notes from Internationalization Meeting

  • Background on the collaboration between LaNeta and MF/PL:

In addition to the technical merger and language stuff, we're also trying to address what does it mean political and cultural ofr an organization based in the united states that has a few international members that is going to get for the first time 50 to 100 members in Mexico, changing significantly our organization.

Concerns with MF/PL about capacity and political vision from leadership within MF/PL and with LaNeta members. The internal debate is about international work fundamentally and the continuation of an internal struggle tha twe're used to.

LaNeta's concerns were presented by Enrique. The main concern is how can the people in Mexico get support, the day-to-day work. Also, there is a more long-term expectation about a democratic space that could be developed so all of the members can exchange their points of view. Regional meetings of membership groups could take place before the MF/PL membership meeting as a way to focus on the main ideas from the Mexican members to try to express them more effectively in a general assembly. Alfredo pointed out one big challenge that the diversification and internationalization of MF/PL makes MF/PL members knowing one another intimately much more difficult. The internationalization team has to recognize not only the job immediately before us of daily commnication, but the entire vision of bringing us all together.

  • General challenges and bigger pictures

Building trust to buy into the idea to continue cooperation based in history and building. Both sides have to believe that the other are very solid. The cultural things need to be brought forward more. Is there a way to do the actual transfer of the server and technology stuff low-key so that we can do the cultural brokering piece to give people an opportunity to work together. The majority of the membership is in Mexico City that could give us time to figure out how to bring people together, which might culminate in a meet-and-greet.

LaNeta went through a process to decide to work with MF/PL in a

community meeting in which Ross was present.

It's important that everything be equal on both sides of the language issue. Integrating different source material into Spanish, or being up-front during the process of migrating the content into Spanish is a priority but a reasonable amount of time. When you enter the website that isn't actually fully translated, it can be frustrated. We have to have an explicity plan for that.

Everything that gets posted is already ready to go in terms of both English and Spanish, not the Spanish later on.

It's easy to segregate people linguistically. If our goal is to integrate our organizations into one on a culturally deep level, it's okay to have all of our communication to have everything English/Spanish jammed together. Everyone gets the same thing because it's one organization. They get two messages and are free to disregard the language that they can't read.

Enrique agrees based on his experience working with language diversity

within Indigenous groups in Mexico.

Add bi-lingualism to all of our existing help nodes and documentation, where necessary. Be upfront.

  • Major Pieces
  • Broadcast Communications (mallory)
  • Mayfirst.org (mallory)
  • Support.mayfirst.org interface and content-plugin (ross)
  • Members.mayfirst.org (jamie)
  • Meetings face-to-face in Mexico with MF/PL people
  • Organizing translation team (enrique) and workflow (mallory) -- Scheduled communications -- First-time sweep of content online -- Ongoing updates, flagging outdated translations -- Emergency communications: templates

  • Plan
  • Jamie is going to get Roberto a list of members to help him recruit a

translation team

  • Roberto is going to write a LD article on our internationalization plans
  • Ross is going to recruit dkg to help with Trac internationalization
  • Mallory's going to work on a translation workflow
  • Jamie's got some lone coding to do with red
  • Next meeting on December 20th (tentative) at 5pm Eastern / 4pm Central

to discuss timeline and report back on the progress we've made on our tasks.

  • Enrique also took notes in Spanish on the wiki page.
  1. Sitio web principal mayfirst.org
    • sitio está listo para la internacionalización, ahora todo el contenido puede presentarse en inglés o en español, la
    • un criterio que debe ser considerado es que siempre que sea posible publicar contenido en ambos idiomas.
  1. Sitio de soporte support.mayfirst.org
    • trac, para traducir la interfase es necesario actualizar la versión y agregar el idioma que por ahora está en variante argentino y español de España
    • podríamos hacer los ajustes a alguna de estas variantes y hacer
  1. Panel de control
    • El panel de control fue desarrollado por Jamie y confía en que éste pueda ser traducido con relativa sencillez.
  1. Service-advisories
    • son enviados en cuestión de minutos y la traducción podría ser adelantada a través de plantillas en español
  1. Trabajo de interpretación en los espacios de toma de decisión