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| 2 | = Notes on Evaluation = |
| 3 | |
| 4 | == From Steve == |
| 5 | |
| 6 | Deltas (and comments) from last 30 minutes of Mayfirst member meeting. |
| 7 | |
| 8 | Question/Point of uncertainty. What we've got up there is really |
| 9 | lukewarm. There's one point with more than one endorsement. Many |
| 10 | things have few endorsements. What do we do next to come up with a |
| 11 | broader consensus? |
| 12 | |
| 13 | There are a lot of really important topics that were not observed in |
| 14 | the last part. The three teams, now that their process is over, want |
| 15 | to come up with an integrated document that integrates the |
| 16 | contribution of everyone. |
| 17 | |
| 18 | Can single transferable voting be used for future voting. It's |
| 19 | definitely a fair system. |
| 20 | |
| 21 | Mexico is going to continue the meeting. Can we get some guidance as |
| 22 | to what that means. |
| 23 | |
| 24 | Membership chooses priorities for the organization, and chooses the |
| 25 | leadership committee. Leadership committed assigns projects based on |
| 26 | priorities. Each priority has a change history, and there are lots of |
| 27 | changes and suggestions coming in. Once all this is submitted, job of |
| 28 | |
| 29 | |
| 30 | incoming leadership committee will have the job of reviewing them, and |
| 31 | writing and integrated report based on their interpretation, and |
| 32 | presenting that to the membership. |
| 33 | |
| 34 | Can any subset of members just keep meeting and working on priorities? |
| 35 | |
| 36 | Our democratic process is in it's infancy; we make it up as we go |
| 37 | along. I propose that we allow for a one-week period, where we invite |
| 38 | additional comments from membership on this process, and we will |
| 39 | consider all comments that come in during this week. |
| 40 | |
| 41 | F has two endorsements. All others have 1 endorsements. We didn't |
| 42 | have enough time. It needs more work beyond this meeting. |
| 43 | |
| 44 | We should separate priorities and objectives, and continue to make a |
| 45 | list of proposals, for how to move this forward. We should be able to |
| 46 | give a week to consider additional contributions. Priorities should |
| 47 | be formulated as objectives, without getting into activities behind the |
| 48 | objective. |
| 49 | |
| 50 | I was frustrated with the framing around last edit wins. I don't |
| 51 | think the idea of winning is necessarily helpful. Things that got |
| 52 | more endorsements are what we should be ranking, not necessarily the |
| 53 | last thing edited. |
| 54 | |
| 55 | We had so much to talk about, and clearly ran out of time. We should |
| 56 | have strategy in case technology takes longer than expected. |
| 57 | |
| 58 | I understand logic for formulating things as objectives. I'd like |
| 59 | space to be open for ideas, w/ some accountability from leadership |
| 60 | committee, so that these ideas can be incorporated into the |
| 61 | leadership strategy. A lot of things can be introduced through |
| 62 | collaborative means. |
| 63 | |
| 64 | I'm wondering if this could go on a web forum? I'd be interested in |
| 65 | seeing what other peoples comments are, and replying to that. |
| 66 | |
| 67 | Comment: on setting up a forum, we have friends.mayfirst.org. We |
| 68 | could use that to execute some of this collaboration work. |
| 69 | |
| 70 | Next time we have to figure out an easier way for people to vote. I |
| 71 | don't think it worked for many people to figure out how to vote |
| 72 | online. |
| 73 | |
| 74 | [From Mexico, missed first part -- static in headset] ... we're very |
| 75 | proactive. Focusing on past of strategies and ideas was a good way to |
| 76 | frame the conversation, but there wasn't enough time to frame the |
| 77 | conversation. |
| 78 | |
| 79 | I'd like to make a point that it would be nice to see more voting |
| 80 | throughout the year. More member involvement, beyond one membership |
| 81 | meeting per year. I'd like to see more direct democracy than |
| 82 | representative democracy. |
| 83 | |
| 84 | == From Daniel == |
| 85 | |
| 86 | here are some recorded notes from the meeting wrapup today: |
| 87 | |
| 88 | May First/People Link Membership Meeting 2012 |
| 89 | |
| 90 | recording pluses and deltas from the day (my job was to record pluses, |
| 91 | but it wasn't always clear whether someone was doing a Δ or a + -- i |
| 92 | know i failed to record some Δ's) |
| 93 | |
| 94 | 2012-10-28 15:32:43-0400 |
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| 96 | |
| 97 | + committment to making the link between mexico city and new york |
| 98 | city happen |
| 99 | |
| 100 | + having discussion prior to the cdw really helped to focus thoughts |
| 101 | and seem less like jumping into a competative environment |
| 102 | |
| 103 | + we think that a lot of really important topics or themes were not |
| 104 | observed in the last part or present. the three teams who were |
| 105 | brought together now that the session is over need to continue to |
| 106 | put together a perspective that joins everyone |
| 107 | |
| 108 | |
| 109 | + In our work sessions here, we came to the conclusion that the |
| 110 | priorities should be framed as objectives, not as activity; that |
| 111 | task would we should separate the priorities and objectives and |
| 112 | continue to make a list of how to move the work forward. and i |
| 113 | |
| 114 | week to continue to consider |
| 115 | |
| 116 | + It was great to see the effort that it took to get the |
| 117 | communications between two places. |
| 118 | |
| 119 | + MF/PL is poised to be one of the groups that is poised to help end |
| 120 | racism because of the position that it has -- point B is exciting, |
| 121 | as well as training and expansion of technical knowledge, much of |
| 122 | which is run by white people. |
| 123 | |
| 124 | + MF/PL has come a long way in the last year -- thanks to the |
| 125 | infrastructure and the meeting planning! |
| 126 | |
| 127 | + conversation in the morning, the questions from rasha and carlos |
| 128 | were very provocative -- the intent of focusing on the past, intent |
| 129 | and ideas helped to frame the conversation, but there wasn't enough |
| 130 | time to flesh it out. We need more time to have the |
| 131 | intergenerational geography (?) and |
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| 135 | |
| 136 | uncertainty -- neither pluses or deltas |
| 137 | |
| 138 | ? lukewarm endorsements - what is the mechanism for followup? what |
| 139 | happens next? |
| 140 | |
| 141 | ? can single transferable voting be used for future arrangements, |
| 142 | better than first past the post? |
| 143 | |
| 144 | ? while planning objectives makes sense, but there needs to be room |
| 145 | for specific ideas and plans to be incorporated into the LC; we |
| 146 | have skills in the organization to get this done. |
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| 150 | |
| 151 | deltas: |
| 152 | |
| 153 | Δ we don't even have consensus and it needs more work and we're not |
| 154 | going to get it done at this meeting |
| 155 | |
| 156 | Δ how could we get have a plan for making use of technical downtime |
| 157 | |
| 158 | Δ could this go on a forum for some future discussion? sending to |
| 159 | info@mayfirst.org isn't as satisfying or meaningful as having an |
| 160 | ongoing discussion. |
| 161 | |
| 162 | Δ figure out easier way for people to vote. voting didn't work well |
| 163 | for many people |
| 164 | |
| 165 | Δ more votes during the year -- direct democracy is better than |
| 166 | representative democracy |
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