Opened 7 years ago

Closed 3 years ago

#962 closed Feature/Enhancement Request (wontfix)

Create RSS feed for LStech Email list

Reported by: https://id.mayfirst.org/jcarlson Owned by: https://id.mayfirst.org/jamie
Priority: Urgent Component: Tech
Keywords: mailman2rss rss Cc: steve@…
Sensitive: no

Description

Mayfirst

Could you create an RSS feed for the email list, lstech@…? Sorry for such short notice, but could you have this done as soon as possible? Thanks!

James

Change History (12)

comment:1 Changed 7 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/jcarlson

  • Type changed from Bug/Something is broken to Feature/Enhancement Request

comment:2 Changed 7 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/dkg

  • Keywords mailman2rss rss added
  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Status changed from new to closed

You should now be able to read the RSS feed for the lstech list at:

https://lists.mayfirst.org/rss/lstech.xml

comment:3 follow-up: Changed 7 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/dkg

  • Resolution fixed deleted
  • Status changed from closed to reopened

James, i just realized that the lstech list archive is only available to members. Since the RSS feed exposes those posts to the public, this may not be what you actually want (the RSS feed itself is not restricted access).

Furthermore, the links in the RSS feed will be broken, since mailman puts private archives in a different URL space than public archives, and the RSS conversion script expects publicly-archived lists.

I'm re-opening this because it's not clear to me how you want to resolve this.

comment:4 in reply to: ↑ 3 ; follow-up: Changed 7 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/jcarlson

Interesting. In this case, let me talk to my supervisor and get back to you on this. Thanks!

James

Replying to https://id.mayfirst.org/dkg:

James, i just realized that the lstech list archive is only available to members. Since the RSS feed exposes those posts to the public, this may not be what you actually want (the RSS feed itself is not restricted access).

Furthermore, the links in the RSS feed will be broken, since mailman puts private archives in a different URL space than public archives, and the RSS conversion script expects publicly-archived lists.

I'm re-opening this because it's not clear to me how you want to resolve this.

comment:5 in reply to: ↑ 4 Changed 7 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/dkg

Replying to https://id.mayfirst.org/jcarlson:

Interesting. In this case, let me talk to my supervisor and get back to you on this. Thanks!

I've removed the RSS feed in the meantime, so that your private archive is not exposed to indexers or harvesters. Post back here when you've decided how you want to proceed.

comment:6 Changed 7 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/grange

So what does having a "public" list mean?

We have an org that wants to keep their archive access restricted to list members and wants to pull archives into their pw protected member areas on their web site via RSS feed. Can this not be done?

Steve

comment:7 Changed 7 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/alfredo

Public = everybody with the url of the list on mailman can see the archives

Private = you need a password to go in and see the archives

You can RSS any list into a password protected area and the area is protected. That's cool except for the breakage of links, etc that Daniel's pointing out above. BUT, as he explains, the feed itself isn't restricted -- you can't really restrict an RSS feed like that by its very nature. So everybody's gonna see it who can replicate the rss feed call.

One option might be to write some kind of script that rewrites the feed's url but I think that might be madd tricky.

Summary, the pages on the site are protected, sure. The feed itself isn't.

Alfredo

comment:8 Changed 7 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/jamie

dkg opened #969 to address the issue of private RSS feeds. Given the complexities of RSS readers handling authentication, it might not be the best option for what you are trying to do.

Another approach that might better match the security needs you have is to create an email address, subscribe the email address to the list, and then rather than pull the archives in via RSS, pull them in via IMAP. I'm not sure how the site in question is coded, but PHP, for example, has fairly good IMAP functions that would allow a script to regularly login via IMAP, look for new messages, and then import those messages.

Since IMAP is designed more robustly as a private communication protocol, it might be a better bet.

comment:9 Changed 3 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/ross

  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Status changed from reopened to feedback

comment:10 Changed 3 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/dkg

  • Resolution fixed deleted
  • Status changed from feedback to reopened

Why is this in feedback state with resolution fixed? It seems like the original problem stated has *not* been fixed, due to some concerns over whether the RSS feed should be public or not, and if not public, how to restrict access.

I could see asking for feedback before closing it wontfix, but it's not fixed.

comment:11 Changed 3 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/dkg

  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from reopened to feedback

comment:12 Changed 3 years ago by https://id.mayfirst.org/jamie

  • Status changed from feedback to closed

Setting to resolved/wontfix. LStech is no longer a member of MFPL.

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